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Hi All

I'm posting in this section as this matter relates to ALL coarse anglers in Scotland :!:

Many of you will now there has been some changes in the law recently with regard to stocking fish into fresh waters in Scotland, we now have to get permission to stock coarse fish species into our waters.
Without the huge amount of work that has been done by the Scottish Federation of Coarse Anglers we might not have been able to stock any non native species at all which would pretty much mean the end of coarse fishing in Scotland as we know it ! so we have a lot to thank the SFCA for.
It seems the battle is not over yet with various threats to coarse angling in Scotland still on the horizon so the SFCA need as much help as it can get via support from Scottish coarse anglers by joining the SFCA as individual members for only £5, less than a packet of fags or a few pints and is a small price to pay to help protect your sport!

Look here http://www.sfca.co.uk/join/index.htm

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28 Apr 2009, 16:51
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Trying to stop the ban ! and without the huge amount of work put in by the likes of Ron Woods we would have a lot more to moan about ! and that is exactly why the SFCA needs the support of Scottish Coarse Anglers. Is anyone else representing Scottish Coarse anglers at government level ? no.

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01 May 2009, 22:50
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I have sent my fiver. Not a lot , someone has to represent us.


01 May 2009, 23:25
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Great stuff Kreid :wink: :D your support is very welcome & thankyou :wink:

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considering there's pubs in edinburgh you couldn't get a pint for a fiver :evil: , this seems like an absolute bargain. Fiver in the post on monday. Come on guys, lets thumb our noses at some of those out to get us and give the SFCA a bit of support. :shock: :wink: :D

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02 May 2009, 09:51
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Another few things worth a mention.

Most of the funding for the SFCA has in the past come from club memberships, numbers of coarse angling clubs have fallen and some have also stopped paying the small SFCA membership which is a real shame.
Many people are under the impression that membership fees just go into paying for international matches etc but this is not true, the match side is funded separately with grants etc.
There are very little funds for the really important work of representing scottish coarse angling at government level and making sure we have that all important voice when it comes to decision making time with the powers that be! we have to stand up to the likes of SANA who have massive resources which is to be expected where game angling is involved, if only the same could be said for coarse angling we would be in a much better position.

So if you are involved in a coarse angling club that are not members of the SFCA please think about putting it to the committee that your club should do their bit and join, it's not expensive and it would be a great help to the SFCA and help ensure there is a bright future for coarse angling in Scotland :wink: :D
If you are not part of a club you can do your bit by joining as an individual member which is even better, in the not too distant future it is hoped will also be other benefits from being a member of the SFCA so watch this space or the SFCA website to find out more!

You may also wonder why I've suddenly started going on about the SFCA ? recent changes in policy, new rules & regulations to do with fish movements etc have made me realize there is a lot going on with various authorities and government etc that could have a real impact on coarse angling in Scotland ! the SFCA guys dealing with this need all the help they can get and the amount of work done by them has been incredible considering it's all done in their spare time for no pay ( not like the other groups like SANA who have people in paid full time jobs! ) . I offered my help and have ended up as Vice Chairman of the SFCA and I'm really happy to be helping the rest of the guys on the SFCA committee. I spent all thursday at the Scottish Fresh water Fisheries Forum with the new Chairman of the SFCA Gus Brindle, it was a real eye opener and I can't praise them enough for the hard work put in by all the SFCA guys :wink: 8) :D
I have to be honest, in the past my view of the SFCA was not great with exception of a few areas like the work of our old SCG chairman Ron Woods. I thought memberships to the SFCA were just going into sending the match guys to competitions etc but now I know It's different and the work of the SFCA is VERY important, some of the things planned I've been told about are very exiting and things are looking up :D 8)

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a good post that saul,a lot of people dont realise what goes on behind the scenes and dont look at the bigger picture myself included ,ill be sending my five squids of next week also


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Nice one Kilty and Keith, thankyou :wink: :D

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Another something to think about !

It's hard not to notice the warning signs that I've had to put up all over our website and forum,
though not pretty and spoiling the look of the forum and the website it now seems essential as an effort to stop fish being taken from our waters :( :x

This is the kind of issue that the SFCA will be attempting to sort out amongst a whole host of other things. It's only the likes of the SFCA who is a national governing body that people like the government will really listen to and get our case heard where it matters most :wink: :D

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Andy

Fair enough you have your view and maybe some things the SFCA have done in the past have not worked but I know for a fact they have been successful in other important areas which your everyday angler would never know about with a prime example being the Strategic Framework for Scottish Freshwater Fisheries.

I also know from attending the forum with Gus that the government are listening and if we want to make changes to improve the situation with things like angling law then the SFCA are our best chance of improving the situation ! having the "Don't give a toss" attitude helps no one and is never going to help improve anything.
You are right, too many coarse anglers in Scotland don't give a toss, it's all take take take and sod everyone else but these people are the first to moan when it all starts to go wrong!

The SFCA is changing for the better but it's only with support from at least the anglers that do give a toss that we can take things further, and for those that do care and join, your money will be put to VERY good use :)

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normally I would wade right into this arguement and put my beliefs and understanding of the situation. This time,however, I would just simply state that for 5 that's FIVE! quid, I'm prepared to take a chance and I'm primarily a game and sea angler who's taking a liking to carp and predator angling. Even if you only do it for this year it's got to be worth it to see what develops!!

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yeah and i can't think of anything LESS worthwhile that spending my fiver "on fags", but then i am a non smoker....a fiver, surely worth a punt. A lot of anglers slag Paas and pac but they do a lot behind the scenes, joe public doesn't see this. People said "where were they when the livebait ban was introduced"? ....well they had been fighting our cause trying to organise a campaign and a letter campaign but not getting much support, less than 200 letters i believe : fighting a losing battle coz it was all set up anyway and was going to be introduced in any case. But no one else was fighting our cause. Now we have paas members on the Tay liason etc, so some good comes of it. That would never have happened before.

The pike "anglers" i have met who knew nothing about the livebait ban were the kind of "anglers" who don't use wire traces, leave a shedload of crap behind them and give us a bad name. I don't know a serious piker who doesn't know about the ban. If they don't know, they should. Its not exactly been kept a secret. C'mon Andy chuck yer fiver in, better for yer health as well! :D


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Guys,

Good to see such positive support and enthusiasm from so many members, and great to hear that Saul has taken on the SFCA Vice Chair post. I absolutely endorse everything he says (except the bits about me - I have to confess work stuff has seriouslt reduced my contribution in the last year or two).

Andy, I can tell you we did everything possible on the livebait ban. We knew it was likely to be put forward but the officials (the key ones have now retired, and their replacements are not quite so devious) worked a flanker on us by putting it into the Bill as a late amendment which left us very little time to mount a full campaign. Nevertheless we wrote twice to every MSP, got a petition going (with a very disappointing number of signatures) and actually managed to get three or four key MSPs (including the current Fisheries Minister) to move amendments, but they ended up being defeated by the Labour block vote.

And yes, I don't disagree that most Scottish coarse anglers don't know who SFCA are or what we do. That's one reason why we want to get more to join up. Bottom line is that there are probably several thousand regular coarse anglers in Scotland, but only a few hundred are members of clubs and a lot of those really don't take much interest in what's going on until it's too late. Despite the fact that our membership base is much smaller than either the game or sea angling communities, over the last ten years or so we have been able to get into a position where we at least have a seat at the table in bodies like the steering committee for the Forum. Given the weight of financial interest behind the salmon lobby it's not realistic to expect that our interests will suddenly become paramount in Scotland, but there is widespread recognition that coarse angling is here to stay and has a positive impact on tourism and as a social amenity. We can build on that in many ways; but it does demand support - both financial and otherwise - from our own community. As Sauil says, SANA and the salmon interest bodies all have full time employees and the resources to push their agendas - SFCA has a Committee of half a dozen guys all of whom have other demanding jobs, so there's a limit to what we can do. Having the tangible support of a few hunderd more individual coarse anglers will make a big diifference, not just finacially but by giving us a wider base for ideas and hands-on support. For instance I know that there are several guys who are very keen regulars at the Barrhead dams - if we knew who they were and they were sufficiently interested, they could maybe take on the role of liaison with the Dams to Darnley Park authority on behalf of SFCA to make sure the interests of coarse anglers are represented, because at the moment I believe the Clyde Fisheries Trust and Busby Angling Club (neither of which has any sympathy for coarse angling) are almost the only angling bodies who are talking to them.

I could go on and on ...

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just had a look at the membership form i see that the "Ethnicity" there is a series of tick boxes and the first is British surely it should be SCOTTISH , if it is the" Scottish Federation For Coarse Angling".
just an observation :roll:

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I didn't fill that bit in. 1st ang club that had that to fill in. Doesn't matter what ethnicity i have.


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